What a waste of taxpayer dollars our government is spending having these census takers harass us. this census is complete crap and an invasion of my rights a a citizen. I am filling out the ACS as required by law, but feel this is a true invasion of privacy. Some doubt these assurances based on the survey collection process itself. Help people, can I really get fined if I don't fill this crap out? "Um, I filled it out twice". So they bully and threaten and use fear to scare people into compliance. "the point that seems most lost here is that households chosen for ACS are just part of a statistical sample that is representative of the country as a whole". He presented me with an ACS envelope and said a "government guy" had come to school and was having random students fill them out. Have you ever filed taxes? I won't either. The Census Bureau will never ask for your full Social Security number, bank account number, or passwords. To complete your request, you'll need to sign and return the Permanent Opt-Out Election form (which you get online) once you've started the process. "The American Community Survey (ACS) is an ongoing survey that provides vital information on a yearly basis about our nation and its people. They just look at you and say "Oh" and then walk away. I sent in the Census form (and that's all I'm required to provide). Why am I being contacted again? I don't even tell my grown kids this much information. how Fourth amendment. Sure, businessmen could use the info -- but because someone wants it, doesn't mean that I have to give it. And if there isn't a law protecting these rights, then we need someone to make it happen! I live in upstate New York and was just threatened that the census taker would be back with the police and his supervisor because I refused to fill out the form. I'm glad they didn't refuse to answer such personal questions as name and age. Me and my family were properly counted on census day 2010. Ain't going to happen, just call their bluff. Thus, they cannot use the census as the pretext for the ACS. I since looked through the forms for the ACS on their site and it does ask far to much personal info. If a citizen doesn't comply with the ACS after a period of weeks, Census Bureau guidelines instruct enumerators to stop calling the resident. I also refused the deputy entrance for the purpose of a census and said that I wished them both to leave as I would not comply. 2. I will not be giving some 18 year old pimple face unemployed moron my personal information. My son answered the door, the guy announced who he was with. Horrible, and a total violation of my rights across the board. Pericles, 460BC. I told her again that I already gave the required info by law and there is no reason to give all that other information. The agent asked about receiving the survey and I informed him that mailed addressed to "resident" was not the responsibility of any named occupant to open but I was also familiar with the unconstitutional intrusion of the personal questions in such a survey and the corporate partners with which the data is shared. I will not comply. They can't take my free will. If you are thinking about filling this out, don't! I am 66 years old and I have never participated in any census. You can find no instance of someone being 'required' to respond, or being fined for not doing so. First of all, get a clue! Public servants are just public burdens and every time their benefits cost more I have to pay for them and I don't even have any myself!!! On Monday, a worker left a letter at my door advising he would return again. 65% of companies measure NPS compared with 44% that measure CSAT and 14% that measure CES. Quid pro quo," then slam the door in their face. He was shocked and said it was required by law. I very much doubt. anon88369: Census enumerators have every right to walk onto your property if they are assigned to do a questionnaire for your address. makes you wonder!!!???? I assumed I did it wrong, so I filled out the second one and sent that in. God bless you for creating this site! If Big Brother wants to bring the law so be it. And the big 2010 census is coming and they can't have ANY negative publicity. As a current enumerator I'd like to say thanks to the great majority of people who have courteously answered census questions. I assume that's why they have come again. 241, 250, of all the rights of the citizen, few are of greater importance or more essential to his peace and happiness than the right of personal security, and that involves, not merely protection of his person from assault, but exemption of his private affairs, books, and papers from inspection and scrutiny of others. Then why am I being asked what my race is? Thank you for creating this site and letting me know that I am not alone with receiving these and answering them. It says it needs to know whether you have flush toilets or running water so they can manage . We didn't receive phone calls first, we had two visits at 7 p.m. from this lady with her little laptop. I'm sorry you feel the need to spread such fear and lies. The states need to reassert their rights back from the federal government. according to the constitution it limits the government's ability to do anything but enumerate. This information helpspolicymakers, local officials, companies,and organizations to understand and assess the resources and needs of people, places, and businesses across the country. What Percent of the US Population do Lawyers Comprise. Census worker says "I am with the census.". The first phone call was late December and was not answered. He asked me about a census employee who visited my home the prior week. I am glad I found this site. This survey is not some spur of the moment mandate by the current administration. Subscribe to our newsletter and learn something new every day. Since then, I have received four phone calls from the US Census Bureau. Title 13 of the United States Code, however, requires that the Census Bureau keep this information confidential and subjects employees who violate this confidentiality requirement to a fine of up to $250,000 USD, up to 5 years imprisonment, or both. May the Lord grant my fellow citizens victory in their battles with this unconstitutional invasion of privacy, too. Came back the very next day, and told my husband that he has full authority to open it and if we don't comply then we will be fined anywhere from $100-5000, and the marshal would be accompanying him tomorrow to arrest my husband if we don't comply. She said OK, left and then returned again within five minutes, saying it was her job to help me fill it out. There is only a theoretical possibility that they could fine you. Thank you to this site and to all those who have posted comments about the survey. But at the same time, phones are not supposed to be tapped. A lock ( If you have an account, you can also sign in and go to My Account, then scroll down to Emails and Newsletters. They wanted to know how much we made, where we made it (we're self employed)but the scary part was that they ALREADY KNEW WHAT WE HAD MADE. He said he'd pass that along. She finally walked away but now I am sleepless as a result of this because I am not certain as to what will happen next. Don't be paranoid, it's only a few questions a lot of people already know about you anyway. Mind your own business. Have to love how the government pays people to harass you. They are not better people, more deserving, more intelligent, more experienced they didn't know "how" things were going to work out they just knew they would. My sister and I are fuming over these forms. Well it's now the middle of July and another census worker left her callback info on the door and has since started calling the number on the "for sale" sign at the property. I was going to fill it out and check "race: other, American" but now I just don't even want to fill the dang thing out. That hesitancy can be surprisingly stubborn to overcome. Lastly, if you are a proper pet owner, then you consider you dog, cat, etc. I received the ACS form yesterday and read it through just to see the questions. The IRS has all my income info, and frankly, it'd take me hours to look up all the financial info they want (monthly mortgage, gas, electric, utility bills.) Referring to financials, I told them to ask the IRS. If you waiver or hide, they will keep trying. My advice based on our experience thus far -- and I am not a lawyer -- just ignore the calls to the best of your ability, and if you answer by accident, simply hang up without conversation. I thought Hitler was stopped. Person 22. They are the ones making the money tax free - not me. anon82113: umm, I worked for the census too. A final note to those of you who are, or consider yourself Republicans: ACS after initial testing, "went national" in 2004. While talking to the ACS lady on the phone I found out they didn't have a complete address and had sent me a form. I received my acs form,filled it out and threw it in the garbage where it belongs. Personally, I want to know how many rental houses are in my town, I want all the representatives we deserve and I also really like looking at the 1920 and 1930 census to learn about my ancestors. I not only told them that I sent it in, but added that if I received another call, I would report it as harassment, and hung up immediately. Two weeks later, I received a second call from a different zip code with another lady asking if I still had the ACS form. Emails from the Census Bureau are sent from the official @census.gov domain. That includes visitors then which would not be falsifying info. I have contacted the media (Fox News), but no one seems to be covering this. When the government fears the people there is liberty." According to some accounts, those recipients who chose not to return the form and did not respond to phone calls or private visits appeared to be hassled the least. Help for Survey Participants. I suggest that people find a petition out there against this census survey. Please note that the Census Bureau will never ask for your full social security number, passwords, or bank account number. The only thing is, I lied my butt off! Shame it's only once every ten years. Now I find out he has been to my place of employment looking for me. I told her to get a US Marshal with a warrant. Does anyone know? But it hasn't ever needed to be collected by a government agency that is supposed to serve WE, the people and then threatens us with fines, treating good citizens like criminals (I thought counting people was like one, two, three, four,?). After giving it some thought, I felt compromised by the invasive questions asked, and decided that my right to privacy was surely being violated. As soon as they identified themselves as being with the Census Bureau, I quickly informed them that I sent it in. I completed the survey. He ignored the legality but admitted there were corporate sponsors involved. How can I verify that an email or text message from the Census Bureau is legitimate? Funny, we are required to get social security numbers at birth, but the social security administration will not protect that number. 1:40. Your address or business cannot be substituted with another. Thank goodness for this web site. During the past year and especially with the current administration in D.C., I am so angry and distrustful of our government. The census cannot ask or get your social security number in any way and you can supply any name you want. At this point, according to the Census Bureau, a non-respondent has a 21% chance of being personally visited by a survey taker. I see a lot of people have more courage than me. I will also show it to any of my neighbors who might know my name and ask that they not answer any questions about us from anyone. Look it up. Helping this corrupt government "function" is the same thing as helping this corrupt government go kill more people, invade our privacy, tax our income, levy fines, issue permissions slips and tattoo our butts. While I also oppose the Census form being sent out, -anon70698, the number of representatives and taxes will be determined by the number of people in the area is what Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution is about. According to the survey, 23% of vehicle manufacturers and suppliers consider relocating production. Census sends a letter saying that your address was selected for the ACS. Asking for federal money or federal representation is a huge mistake. The calls/personal visits stopped. By the way, from what I read in Title 13, the max they can fine you is $100 for not filling out the form, or max $500 for false information. Send it out to the target audience. I am going to avoid all traps and when it is time to have them finally come over I am going to do an international webcast and sing answers and slowly say, ohhhhh I don't know.let me think and sit there for 15 minutes for each question.everyone will know where I don't work, how much money I don't make and that I don't have plumbing and that I fart a lot That's the game the Nazi's started with in the 30's as did Stalin, with the knocks on the door and the spying on each other. I am grateful for this siteI just got the survey in the mail and felt very intimidated into having to complete it.or else. Is there anything I can do about this? They DO go away. OMG!! There should be a law against this. I did not receive the additional questionnaire. All selected households and businesses are chosen according to scientific statistical methods. don't let them take our rights away even more than they already have. Led by lawmakers with a 'limited government' worldview, the U.S. House of Representatives has voted three times since 2012 (including this past spring) to let Americans opt-out of answering the ACS. My wife and I are not answering this. Without the enjoyment of this right, all others would lose half their value. [The bracketed words added for clarification], Interstate Commerce Commission v. Brimson, 154 U.S. 447, 479 (May 26, 1894). He didn't know what to think about that (needed to check the law), and took no action. Survey of Income and Program Participation (SIPP). *Respondents may Reply "Stop" to opt out of receiving text messages. We need to take a stand and not put up with all the socialist crap the government wants us to do. Many people I know who voted for this man are now regretting it. And you all sound sober and mature, not the lunatic fringe at all. I don't feel they need to know all the crap they are asking. No one from the Census has ever asked for your social security number - perhaps someone *posing* as a Census Field Rep. did, but not an employee of the Census. No way was I going to submit that kind of info. I responded to the ACS. We have 273 people living in this house with no plumbing, I go to work at 2 a.m. and get home at 2:30. I never thought at age 47 that I would ever see our country go this far the the left. The Census Bureau does surveys by mail, over the phone, in person, online or some combination of these. Wrong. I was willing to answer the survey at first - thinking it would just be a headcount but then I saw the rest of the questions. Report. When I mentioned the threat of a fine to the last caller she seemed horrified that I would accuse her of that and went out of the way to state that she didn't bring it up. all the government tries to say if they want you to do something is say "its the law" thinking people will run and do what they say. Search the Census Bureau Staff Directory to find the contact information for our employees. Some surveys involve multiple interviews in order to learn how characteristics such as income, employment, housing, or education change over time. From the American Community Survey and your tax dollars at work. Still, some citizens do not answer it. I feel kind of sick too. in the '90s the Commerce Dept decided that I was a resort or apartment complex owner and harassed me to fill out a survey detailing my expenditures on repairs, income reports etc. If a person of the same sex comes to your door, act like you're interested in them and start touching their hair. They also made an unannounced visit. Other countries pay equally and get that ever elusive socialist universal health care. People, look around you and see. Would you believe they just called again? I started to take the survey and the more I saw the more upset I got. (Same woman who was no longer employed with the census). The SS Admin does not care. It is pages and pages of personal questions. No one from the Census has ever called you every hour of the day or at 9 p.m. Staff Directory. Sometimes we do follow-up when we have incomplete responses to a survey, or if we have no response, at all. I will report her actions to our manager and possibly to her supervisor. And finally, to the person who looked up the Census rep's name then mentioned her husband had called and wanted her to stop at the store so she looked at him in shock? I have no problem filling out the main census form but not this BS. I filled out the form only giving the required information by law and that is how many people live here. But the Supreme Court is not supreme over the other branches of government; it is supreme only over lower federal courts. At what location did this person work last week? One of the three enumerators did canvass my neighbors and got hold of one of them, who tried to call me and advised the census people were looking for me (I did not return the voicemail). Your participation is critical. i respect my government and i am proud to be an american, but since when is it any of their business if i have a hot water heater or how far i travel to work? The American Community Survey is sent to 1 in 38 homes in the U.S. each year. @CalminHeart wrote: Here's what it says online: The American Community Survey is a legitimate survey conducted by the CensusBureau. I filled out the Census form this year and still, someone came to our door. It's paranoid people like you all who cause your communities not to get the funding they need. Unreal! Thus, if they want a specific task force to track illegals and tax invading americans, then so be it. She returned the following day. The answers we all provide are used to help determine the best distribution of more than $675 billion in federal and state funds annually. I am young and strong and will not put up with this sort of thing. I ignored her as I was outside with my kids. I work for one of the phone centers for the Census Bureau. Why am I in the unlucky 2.5%? Then I received the ACS. They are not! I thought the purpose of census was for representation purposes. Browse our collection of stories and more. I will comply when they 1) remove the millions of illegals from U.S. soil, 2)oust criminals who do not even pay their taxes from political power positions, 3) listen to the will of their constituency and remember we are a "representative republic" not a "Banana Republic" 4) stop plotting the demise of American citizens with their plans for a Eugenicists health care plan. is it market research for business, an academic study, a government program). I don't get mad about much but privacy is basic American. But it did. *Medical accuracy is not specifically outlined in state statue, rather it is required by the New Jersey Department of Education, Comprehensive Health and Physical Education Student Learning Standards. I am not saying that the US government would or could ever go to this extreme but, for the purposes of garnering ever more political power and authority over the citizenry, I have no illusions about how far this government will go. My question is: "Doesn't our government have enough information on us from our mandatory tax returns?" "; "What is your favorite color on Thursday afternoons between 4:30 and 5:00 p.m.? On the back of the ACS form it states: "Respondents are not required to respond to any information collection unless it displays a valid approval number from the Office of Management and Budget.". I suppose if they have the info to redistrict, they have all the info they need. If all they want is a head count, all they have to do is count social security numbers! Keep being sheep. I am so glad to see I am not alone in not wanting to fill out this survey. I told him that on the advice of my attorney I had shredded the form. I may not bother with this anyway. Although an intrusive visit would make my blood boil, I would suggest a similar strategy for visits if possible. Unbelievable! she said go ahead i'll wait. all this while he was getting ready for work. About how much do you think this house and lot, apartment, or mobile home would sell for if it were for sale? If they refuse, call 911 and report a hostile trespasser. This is ridiculous. Then came the second one,it followed the first. These statistics deliver valuable information for local officials and organizations who provide resources and services to your community. These questions clearly violate any privacy guaranteed to me by the US Constitution and over step the Census Bureaus authority. I asked them what does my birthday have to do with enumeration count of my household? I am a prisoner in my own home. (We filled out and mailed our census form as soon as we received it.) The census guy showed up here. I plead the 5th amendment because the government can ask legally, according to the attorneys office, but I can also remain silent legally. Just slam the phone or door on them. I guess we'll just wait and see. She offered me her badge and supervisors number. We haven't been bothered since. Read the Constitution. THE American Community Survey may be the most important government function you've never heard of, and it's in trouble. Glad I found this thread! As a result of widespread concern and perhaps out of frustration with the survey, several websites have been set up to provide public forums for recipients of the ACS. I returned the question booklet as instructed. A few days ago had a census worker knock on my door. I asked her if she had gotten a statement from my mortgage company-a release- and she found it and sent the refund. I don't owe the government anything for going to college. For more information about completing a particular survey, you can search the Census Bureauslist of surveysand read more about what your options are for responding. Here are the facts I discovered: Some of the questions asked in this questionnaire are so intrusive that I would not even give this information to my best friends or relatives. It has taken almost two decades to get it to this point where something intelligent can actually be done to manage our mess. The Household Pulse Survey uses the number 39242 (message and data rates may apply*) to send a link to complete the survey online. We have starving, homelessness, government corruption. Are You in a Survey? Then we find out she is our next-door neighbor! Yeah right! I will file a class action suit against the Government if they continue to harass me and hope to gain momentum in order to force the government to be liable for any information lost on their part. I hope it's not too late for us. Just say, "I respectfully decline." Why would anyone want to "help the government function" (interfere in our private lives)? Today, the apparent supervisor came -- in his safety vest and green jeep like a public works person. She said she would mark me down as 'refused' If someone actually shows up I am going to take control of the interview and video my demand that they leave and not come back, and their response. Ask yourself this question. I have already received two calls. I had never heard of such a thing. What time do the male members of your household go to work? I have yet to fill one out. They haven't gone so far as to threaten, but I can sense that their tone is getting more firm. Their bosses are going like it even less. Get your head out of the clouds and step into reality. Your participation in a Census Bureau survey is critical, and your response to the 2020 Census cannot replace your answers to these surveys. This second survey is going right in the burner. I am glad to know there are plenty out there who are refusing to let our rights be trampled on!! She didn't have the common courtesy to disclose that little fact. My husband sent him away as we were eating. Choose the types of emails you'd like to receive or unsubscribe from. To verify that someone who has texted you is a Census Bureau field representative, you can enter their name in the Census Bureau Staff Search, a database that lists name and contact information for all Census Bureau employees. Unfortunately it does not state that the number of people is the only thing allowed to be collected by the census. Title 13 section 141, subsections (a) and (d) authorize surveys. I am not giving my personal information out to anyone authorized by this government. A mortgage deduction should indicate I own a house; a 1099 with either unemployment compensation or reported income would indicate whether I am unemployed or self-employed. Like its children it seems it wants us to be happy and being so it has empowered us to live our dreams freely, Know you are worth it, see it and feel it and it will be. One month ago, I received a letter stating that the census was coming. I was mailed two ACS forms which I promptly threw in the trash because of the personal nature of the questions. The woman was carrying a clip board. A survey last year of opt out activists by Pizmony-Levy and researcher Nancy Green Saraisky found that the top three reasons for participation in the movement are: (1) opposition to evaluating teachers in part by their students' test scores (37 percent), (2) a belief that standardized tests force teachers to narrow the curriculum to only the . There is absolutely no possibility they can guarantee this information will not be disseminated to others or exposed to malevolent wrongdoers. When I returned home he was scared and thought he did something wrong. Who is there to police the police? She left me with a notice of visit with her name and I suppose her personal phone number. Yes we find the government annoying, but we could turn things around to our advantage and make things fun. The information from the Census should suffice for the allotment of federal funds for schools and roads. Someone said they can find all our info on the internet anyway. Most Census Bureau calls asking you to participate in a survey other than the 2020 Census originate from one of the following numbers: If you receive a call from the Census Bureau and you would like to independently verify that the number is from the Census Bureau, you can call one of the following numbers: Field representatives who do in-person interviews may also call you. After 40 years and right before everybody in the country is supposed to reply to the 2010 census? Cowards! They have no right to know. I also ignored the mailed survey. They want me to call an 800 number to give them my personal info. It is community based, and an effort to get away from the biased media to get the truth from people in the area it applies. I told him that was fine. give me liberty, or give you death as the old saying goes! Thanks! Click here to learn about phishing and other scams. Secure .gov websites use HTTPS its no joke. Attempting to use scare tactics to get personal information - nice. Continued refusal may lead to additional visits by a supervisor. I set it aside. Filled out the short form months ago. my wife and I pay our taxes and feel if that's not enough for our government, then "Too bad Charlie". Who are these people and why are they telling me I am obligated by law to provide my personal information to some one or some entity I don't know. (The car had to pass my house to get to the neighbors.) Make sure your spam filter doesn't block these opt-out requests. And everyone should have to fill out the same thing-how come I get the long form every time? 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