The "Bear" went on to become the Best All-Time NCAA College Football Coach. Minus the Cardinals, who spent most of their years in Chicago and St. Louis, none of the AFC or West teams have been especially known for drafting Alabama players, although some who led their teams were Kenny Stabler, Shaun Alexander and Derrick Thomas. . [13] Later in the first quarter, Tennessee took a 140 lead after a Tommy White fumble was recovered by Cotton Letner and returned 41-yards for a touchdown. And beat them he did. After Alabama upset Georgia in week one, they entered the polls for the first time at the No. [56][57] For the 1961 season, the Alabama freshmen squad was coached by Sam Bailey and finished their season with a record of two wins and one tie (201). Coached by College Football Hall of Famer Paul "Bear" Bryant, Alabama finished 11-0 after a 10-3 victory against the Razorbacks in the Sugar Bowl. At 44 years of age, Bryant had already earned a reputation as a miracle worker in rebuilding downtrodden programs such as Maryland, Kentucky and Texas A&M into powers. Odds & lines subject to change. [46], In their second game, the Crimson Tide defeated Mississippi State by a final score of 106 at Denny Stadium on a Monday. [29][30] After a scoreless third quarter, the Crimson Tide closed the game with a one-yard Larry Wall touchdown run in the fourth quarter and made the final score 240. [49] Additionally, Alabama had four players selected to the All-SEC First Team: Mike Fracchia at back, Jordan, Neighbors and Trammell. Yet the Crimson Tide kept themselves busy rolling unimpeded through their own slate of games. As forcold-weather franchises, Joe Namath and Bart Starr obviously did pretty well leading northern teams. Later in the year, Texas assumed the No. The Texans were understandable, they'd only been around since 2002. [47] In the final freshmen game of the season, Alabama defeated Auburn 236 before 4,000 fans on a Monday at Denny Stadium. Alabama touchdowns were scored on Pat Trammell passes of 12-yards to Richard Williamson and two-yards to Bill Battle in the second and on runs of five-yards by Trammell and 45-yards by Eddie Versprille in the fourth quarter. [27] Ultimately, Moore denied the request and cited that as a conference he was unable to violate existing NCAA rules that specified only 60 minutes for football games. Alabama started off hot needing just six plays to score. [45][46][47] The Crimson Tide took a 100 halftime lead after they scored on a 12-yard Pat Trammell touchdown run in the first quarter and on a 32-yard Tim Davis field goal in the second quarter. [8][9] The Crimson Tide did not score again until a 25-yard Tim Davis field goal in the fourth quarter made the final score 90. 2021 | 2020 2019 | 2018 | 2017 | 2016 | 2015 | 2014 | 2013 | 2012 | 2011 | 2010 2009 | 2008 | 2007 | 2006 | 2005 | 2004 | 2003 | 2002 | 2001 [19], Prior to their game against Tennessee, Alabama dropped two positions in the polls to the No. The Crimson Tide's unexpected allies in the campaign for the national championship turned out to be a rather lightly-regarded TCU. [31] On what was homecoming in Denny Stadium, the Crimson Tide shutout the Bulldogs 240. [58] The 1961 freshman squad was noted for its being led by Joe Namath at quarterback after he chose to attend Alabama after he received more than 50 athletic scholarship offers from other schools. Organizers of the Rose Bowl game were considering inviting the team from the Yellowhammer State back to play in the New Years Day classic for the first time since 1946 in order to face the powerful Ohio State squad who remained undefeated (but bearing one tie on their record). We came to play. [60], In their second game, the Baby Tide defeated Tulane 326 at Denny Stadium in a game they scored touchdowns in all four quarters. The Volunteers didnt get to enjoy the honor particularly long either as Alabama went on to crush them 34-3. 5 spot prior to their first Legion Field game of the season. After a victories over Houston on homecoming and on the road at Mississippi State, Alabama scored their most points in a game since the 1952 season when they defeated Furman 510. Maybe they did and maybe they didn't but the high poll ranking came in handy as the season progressed since, like any national championship, gaining the title depended a great deal on the fortunes of other teams vying for the prize over the course of the season. [4][5] Fracchia scored first on a two-yard run and was followed with a seven-yard Mal Moore touchdown pass to Red Wilkins. See our list of forfeits and vacated games for more details. [45][46], After the season, Alabama had several players recognized individually for their on-field performances. The Plainsmen had only suffered a single loss that season, a 10-3 defeat at the hands of Tennessee in the season opener. 15 prior to their win over Vanderbilt. [48] Second Team All-America selections included Lee Roy Jordan at center and Pat Trammell at quarterback. [4][18][19] The Crimson Tide scored the lone points of the game on their second offensive possession when Pat Trammell scored on an 18-yard touchdown run. [30], As they entered their season finale against No. Hes a good competitor, but we just didnt give him a chance today. College Football Game Programs 1960-1969. Join our linker program. The next week, Alabama defeated Tennessee for the first time since the 1954 season in the first Legion Field game of the year. [15], After their victory over Vanderbilt, Alabama moved up one position in the polls to the No. [14], A week after their first loss of the season at Tennessee, the Crimson Tide returned home and shutout the Houston Cougars 140 on homecoming in Tuscaloosa. [10] At Mobile, the Crimson Tide shutout the Tulane Green Wave for the first time since the 1959 season in this 90 victory. [18] In what was their first non-conference game of the season, Alabama defeated the NC State Wolfpack 267 in Tuscaloosa. 4 position in the AP Poll prior to their game against Vanderbilt. Alabama took a 70 lead when Namath threw a 46-yard touchdown pass to Creed Gilmer, and Auburn tied the game 77 on the kickoff that ensued after Tucker Frederickson returned it 92-yards for a touchdown.[58]. [21][22] After a one-yard Cotton Clark touchdown run extended the Alabama lead to 290 in the third, the Crimson Tide scored 22 fourth quarter points to win 510. [33][34], For their game at Legion Field against Georgia Tech, the Crimson Tide remained in the No. Alabama certainly wasn't complaining about the pest problems in the Southwest Conference given their own concerns in the Southeast. The Crimson Tide then took a 137 halftime lead on a nine-yard Namath pass to Creed Gilmer late in the second. Our boys rose up real well and stopped them on the big plays., Fracchia didnt let them catch their breath with his shots up the middle and Trammell, like always, did whatever he had to do. Which NFL teams have had the most, and fewest, former Alabama Crimson Tide football players on their roster over the years. [20][21] The Crimson Tide scored first-quarter touchdowns on a five-yard Mike Fracchia run and a nine-yard Pat Trammell pass to Butch Wilson and a pair of Tim Davis field goals in the second quarter for a 203 halftime lead. The Razorbacks final attempt to score ended with an incomplete pass as the clock finally ran out on the New Orleans contest to bring Alabama's undefeated national championship season to a close. American Football Database is a FANDOM Lifestyle Community. 3 spot prior to their first Denny Stadium game of the season. [24][25] Alabama responded in the third quarter with a one-yard Leon Fuller touchdown run that cut the Jackets' lead to 156. [25][26] The victory improved Alabama's all-time record against Houston to 30. [9][10] The victory improved Alabama's all-time record against Vanderbilt to 19164. [40], After their win over Tech combined with No. To open the 1961 season, the Crimson Tide defeated the Georgia Bulldogs 326 on the road at Athens. 2 position in the national polls. All rights reserved. By choosing I Accept, you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies. These players included the following: Prior to the 1972 NCAA University Division football season, NCAA rules prohibited freshmen from participating on the varsity team, and as such many schools fielded freshmen teams. "I don't do the picking, just the coaching. The Crimson Tide then closed the season with a victory over Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl. 2 Ohio State when the Buckeyes turned down the invitation declaring that the school's emphasis on sports over academics was excessive. Academic Year Hometown High School; 10: Keith: Weber: Quarterback: 6-0: 182: So. 15 position in the AP Poll prior to their game against Vanderbilt. "We weren't a just a good defensive team," Bryant later remarked. [45][46][47] The Crimson Tide took a 100 halftime lead after they scored on a 12-yard Pat Trammell touchdown run in the first quarter and on a 32-yard Tim Davis field goal in the second quarter. [51] In having led his team to both the SEC and national championships, Bear Bryant was recognized as the AP, UPI and coaches' SEC Coach of the Year.[51]. Touchdowns were scored in the third quarter on a 66-yard Benny Nelson punt return and a 26-yard Jack Hurlbut pass to Red Wilkins and in the fourth quarter on runs of three-yards by Eddie Versprille, two-yards by Marlin Mooneyham and on a 28-yard Mal Moore pass to Jimmy Dill. [5], After their upset victory over Georgia in their first game of the season, Alabama entered the polls for the first time of the season at the No. [4][21][22] After Bobby Skelton threw and eight-yard touchdown pass to Butch Wilson in the first, he followed it with a three-yard touchdown pass to Richard ODell in the second quarter. Brandon Miller has been failed by the adults around him many paid handsomely who are meant to safeguard his interestsand, more importantly, to tell the truth. We have tools and resources that can help you use sports data. Record: 10-1 (4th of 120) ( Schedule & Results ) Rank: 5th in the Final AP poll Conference: SEC Conference Record: 6-1 Coach: Bear Bryant (10-1) Points For: 289 Points/G: 26.3 (9th of 120) Points Against: 39 More Team Info Alabama School History 1962 Alabama Statistics Schedule & Results Roster And the 1961 season was a rollercoaster for the frontrunners. The 1960 Alabama Crimson Tide football team (variously "Alabama", "UA" or "Bama") represented the University of Alabama in the 1960 NCAA University Division football season. The 1961 Alabama Crimson Tide football team (variously "Alabama", "UA" or "Bama") represented the University of Alabama in the 1961 NCAA University Division football season. He was also named All-SEC. The Crimson Tide never lost a game that Trammell started under center. After an unsuccessful bid to allow for a "sudden death" overtime period in the event of a tie in their game against Georgia Tech, Alabama defeated both the Yellow Jackets in Atlanta and Tampa at home prior to their victory over Auburn in the Iron Bowl. [20][21] They then closed the game with touchdown runs of eight-yards by Billy Richardson in the third and one-yard by Trammell in the fourth quarter. [58] The 1961 freshman squad was noted for its being led by Joe Namath at quarterback after he chose to attend Alabama after he received more than 50 athletic scholarship offers from other schools. Greg Byrne, Shane Lyons, and Steven Gonzalez: Incompetent or simply cowards? [59], In their first game of the season, Alabama came from behind and defeated Mississippi State 2014 before 3,500 fans at Denny Stadium. [58] Both touchdowns came in the first quarter. This time over the possibility of the Crimson Tide playing in the "The Grandaddy of them All." I guess the main reason was Alabamas great defense. Use without license or authorization is expressly prohibited. Eight plays later Alabama led 70 after Laurien Stapp scored on a one-yard run. In the locker room after the game Alabama trainer Jim Goostree, a graduate of Tennessee, handed out cigars to the Crimson Tide players creating one of the most famous traditions of the Third Saturday in October. [4][24][25] Tech dominated the first half and built a 150 halftime lead over Alabama. Then Iowa's championship hopes went awry when they hit the heart of their conference schedule and they dropped four straight. It references the Joyce Collection's holdings of American college football game programs issued from 1960 to 1969, excluding bowl games and all-star charity games. "We certainly. [28][29], After their upset over Georgia Tech, Alabama reentered the AP Poll at the No. Note: This page is a finding aid to materials in the Joyce Sports Research Collection in the Department of Special Collections, Hesburgh Libraries of Notre Dame. The Crimson Tide then took the free kick that ensued 49-yards for a touchdown with the points made on a 36-yard Bobby Skelton touchdown pass to Norbie Ronsonet for a 150 lead. [14] Against the Commodores, the Crimson Tide won by a final score of 356 at Dudley Stadium in Nashville. [6][8][9] Alabama scored their only touchdown in the first quarter on a 22-yard Pat Trammell pass to Tommy Brooker for a 60 lead. 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When North Carolina State scored a touchdown in the first half of the Oct. 14 contest at Denny Stadium it marked the first time the Tide fell behind that season. We did not deliberately go out looking for smaller players in those days, but we demanded quickness and it usually came in smaller packages. [1] The 1961 national championship was the first of the six that Bear Bryant would win as head coach of the Crimson Tide.[2]. National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA). [45] In their first game of the season, Alabama was shut out by Tulane at New Orleans, 190. The Alabama offense, led by quarterback Pat Trammell, didn't set any sportswriters chasing metaphors to describe its brilliance. 18 position in the week leading to their game against Tampa. The team was led by head coach Bear Bryant, in his fourth year, and played their home games at Denny Stadium in Tuscaloosa, Legion Field in Birmingham and Ladd Stadium in Mobile, Alabama. [4][5] Fracchia scored first on a two-yard run and was followed with a seven-yard Mal Moore touchdown pass to Red Wilkins. The first touchdown was set up after Lee Roy Jordan recovered a Charlie Rieves fumble at the Cougars' 31-yard line. [43][44] For the 1960 season, the Alabama freshmen squad was coached by Sam Bailey and finished their season with a record of two wins and one loss (21). Do you have a blog? As for which franchises have had the most, the numbers pretty much line up with the draft with one major exception, the Detroit Lions. [24][25] The victory improved Alabama's all-time record against Georgia Tech to 21183. [17], On homecoming in Starkville, Alabama scored their only touchdown in the first quarter and shutout the Mississippi State Maroons 70. Alabama opened the season with a win over Georgia on the road in week one, and then defeated Tulane in their home game at Ladd Stadium in week two. Bryant's absolute conviction made it impossible for those in attendance to doubt he was dead serious but beyond those doors uncertainty carried a little bit more weight. National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) (PDF). Find out more. [1] The 1961 national championship was the first of the six that Bear Bryant would win as head coach of the Crimson Tide.[2]. "I can't see how a fellow can sit in New York and Birmingham and tell how good a football team a thousand miles away that he hasn't seen will be," Bryant said. Bryant, according to sportswriter Clyde Bolton wasn't concerned about the high ranking but his reaction to the ranking had a ring modern Alabama fans would find familiar. The students in Columbus saw it otherwise and rioted for two days. [6][29][30] Alabama took a 140 first quarter lead on touchdown runs of four-yards by Billy Richardson and one-yard by Pat Trammell, and after a 26-yard Tim Davis field goal in the second quarter led 170 at halftime. 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Touchdowns were scored in the third quarter on a 66-yard Benny Nelson punt return and a 26-yard Jack Hurlbut pass to Red Wilkins and in the fourth quarter on runs of three-yards by Eddie Versprille, two-yards by Marlin Mooneyham and on a 28-yard Mal Moore pass to Jimmy Dill. The high hopes of Woody Hayes' Buckeyes going into the season as the No. "It's not what they eat and tote off, it's what they fall into and mess up that hurts," he said. It was the Crimson Tide's 66th overall and 27th season as a member of the Southeastern Conference (SEC). [8][9] The victory improved Alabama's all-time record against Tulane to 19103. College Football at Sports-Reference.com Blog and Articles. 5 position. Yet four years after that fateful meeting - and half a century ago this year eleven of the 89 freshmen in that room celebrated the first of six titles the man known as "the Bear" would bring to Tuscaloosa. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. The incident went unflagged and almost unnoticed during the game and wasn't mentioned for several days after (Sports Illustrated didn't even mention it in their weekly college football roundup). With the possibility of playing in the Rose Bowl nipped in the bud, Alabama accepted the invitation to play No. The Broncos were founded in 1960, the Vikings in 1961. Roster includes most starters and key reserves. [14] Against the Commodores, the Crimson Tide won by a final score of 356 at Dudley Stadium in Nashville. [16][17] The Crimson Tide responded with 26 unanswered points and won the game 267. [26], In the week that led into this game, Bear Bryant and Georgia Tech head coach Bobby Dodd agreed to make a request to then SEC commissioner Bernie Moore to allow for a "sudden death" overtime period in the event the game was tied at the end of regulation. 2 position in the national polls. [11], After their victory over Tulane at Ladd Stadium, Alabama retained the No. [4][13] Ray Abruzzese fumbled the first play of the game for Alabama to set up the Vols' first score on an eight-yard Bill Majors touchdown pass to Charles Wyrick. Find out more. 4 position in the polls prior to their road game at Houston. 1 position in the polls prior to their game against Auburn. [12][13] Early in the second quarter, Trammell scored his second touchdown on a 16-yard run. [27] In the first night game of the year, Alabama defeated a tough Cougars squad 170 at Rice Stadium. Watch our How-To Videos to Become a Stathead, Subscribe to Stathead and get access to more data than you can imagine. The Texans finished the 2021 season tied for the top spot, but took a step toward moving back after selecting wide receiver John Metchie III and linebacker Christian Harris in the 2022 NFL Draft. To handle the Tigers, Alabama altered the defensive alignment to a 4-4 set. SEC Champion Alabama defeated Southwest Conference Co-Champion Arkansas in the Sugar Bowl, marking the Crimson Tides first MacArthur Bowl. [20][21] They then closed the game with touchdown runs of eight-yards by Billy Richardson in the third and one-yard by Trammell in the fourth quarter. [33][34] Alabama then closed the game with five second half touchdowns and won 660. [4][5][6] Alabama took a 100 halftime lead after Tim Davis connected on a 41-yard field goal in the first quarter and Mike Fracchia scored on a one-yard touchdown run in the second quarter. Before selecting Jameson Williams in the first round of the 2022 NFL Draft, the Lions had drafted just 13 Crimson Tide players, yet 32 had played for the franchise that's been around since 1929. [15][16] On the Houston drive that ensued, Billy Richardson intercepted a Don Sessions pass and returned it to the Cougars' 18-yard line. They then closed the regular season with wins over Georgia Tech and Auburn in the Iron Bowl and captured the national championship as awarded by the major wire services. [6][12][13] Alabama took a 130 first quarter lead on touchdown runs of 66-yards by Mike Fracchia and eight-yards by Pat Trammell. It turned out those would be the easiest points scored all day as the game turned into a defensive slog from there on out. Alabama's defense halted drive on its own 10 late int he first half, and other at the 7 during the third quarter. During the regular season, Alabama scored an average of over 28 points per game while the defense was also amazing college football fans. [21][22] The victory improved Alabama's all-time record against Furman to 50. [31] In what was the first and only meeting against the Spartans, Alabama won 346 in the final Denny Stadium game of the season. [29][30] The victory improved Alabama's all-time record against Mississippi State to 33103. The Crimson Tide defense held Georgia Tech to 30 yards rushing, 66 yards passing and just six first downs. The Crimson Tide then proceeded to win all six of their regular season games that remained. These players included the following: Prior to the 1972 NCAA University Division football season, NCAA rules prohibited freshmen from participating on the varsity team, and as such many schools fielded freshmen teams. Not the biggest, but the best," Bryant recalled in his autobiography. It seemed to work as Auburn was never able to penetrate beyond the Crimson Tide 35-yard-line. The quick kick, Sports Illustrated noted, was an offensive maneuver at Alabama. 1 position in the polls prior to their game against Auburn. [41][42] In the second, Pat Trammell scored on a one-yard run, Tim Davis connected on a 35-yard field goal and Trammell threw a 19-yard touchdown pass to Richard Williamson. The 1964 Alabama Crimson Tide football team (variously "Alabama", "UA" or "Bama") represented the University of Alabama in the 1964 NCAA University Division football season.It was the Crimson Tide's 70th overall and 31st season as a member of the Southeastern Conference (SEC). After Alabama was recognized as national champions by the major wire services, it capped the season with a 10-3 victory overthe Arkansas Razorbacks in the Sugar Bowl. Alabama 1961. at Georgia (3-7) 32-6 (Mobile) Tulane (2-8) 9-0 . The coach doesn't release scholarship information, so there's always a little bit of doubt and guesswork involved, yet there are some things that stand out about the 2023 Crimson Tide at this point. However, they tied the Green Wave and dropped to No. [37][38] The victory improved Alabama's all-time record against Georgia Tech to 22183. 1 in the final AP poll of the season receiving 26 of 48 first place votes cast. The SPORTS REFERENCE and STATHEAD trademarks are owned exclusively by Sports Reference LLC. Alabama claims it has won national titles in 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934, 1941, 1961, 1964, 1965, 1973, 1978, 1979, 1992, 2009, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2017 and now in 2020. Alabama Athletics Team picture of the 1961 Alabama football roster. [49] Additionally, Alabama had four players selected to the All-SEC First Team: Mike Fracchia at back, Jordan, Neighbors and Trammell. Gymnastics Tickets. Granted, there will still be some movement eventually, as Alabama still has four players set to arrive over the summer, but by our count the Crimson Tide roster appears to be at exactly where. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. [15][16] The victory improved Alabama's all-time record against Houston to 20. Holts hit on Chick Granning during a kick return resulted in the Georgia Tech player suffering a concussion and broken jaw. 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